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  • Monday, December 22, 2014 2:19 PM
    Message # 3174475




    Boys and girls,  the other night I was doing some nostalgic surfing on the internet.  I was recalling a carnival ride that I saw a picture of hanging in a motel I was staying in.  It was a picture of the “Rock-O-Plane,” that would come to the Lucas County Fair each summer in Maumee where I grew up.  I rally like this ride because if you were good at operating it you could make the cab stay upside down for the entire ride.  I’m guessing the at the bottom of the ferris wheel ride you would be pushing about 1.75 negative Gs.  Andy could probably figure it out exactly.  Anyway I started thinking of some of those rides that I would look for back then and I remembered that there were three of them that I could recall that would “fly,” upside down.  There was on that was called the “Peanut,” and then I remember one that had about eight airplane that were at the end of long booms that would would actually roll around when the ailerons were displace and you were actually doing a version of a rolling 360, something I used to do in my DR-107 all the time.  It wasn't until I started researching the Rock-O-Plane that I discovered it was made, along with these other rides, by an airplane company.  No wonder I wanted to “fly,” them when I was a kid.  You could actually make them fly upside down!  Check out the Fly-O-Plane, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOA03RqqbOw   Check out the Rock-O-Plane  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFeQogg1Kig   and the Roll-O-Plane  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbAAQ-dRPbQ

    After a little more digging about the company if found this short clip of a 1930 movie, check out the machine in the beginning of the clip, it was made by the Eyerly Aircraft company and was originally designed to be a simulator for the war effort in truing pilots but it must have been around this time that they figured they could make more money letting people ride it at fairs and thus launched all the rides I have been describing.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dOrwNT0mMA

    The first thought that popped into my head was Holy Smokes!  We need to build one of these things!  How cool would that be?  And we could make money, and I think lots of money dragging it around to festivals and fly ins.  That would help pay the heat bill.  And we have all the talent, tools, skills, and money to make it happen.  What do you think?


    Ken Kreutzfeld sent me this email he found on the website
    by YakDaddy » Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:28 pm
    I actually got to ride one of these when I was 14 years old at a small carnival held on the flightline at MacDill Air Force base in 1972. It was incredible and I've never forgotten it. For the past two years I've been working on building one. I've been in contact with Jon Eyerly, the Grandson of Lee Eyerly who originally designed and built the Acrpoplane. I interviewed Jon several months ago and he revealed a ton about this ride. It was his Grandfathers very first carnival ride, and it was originally designed to be a flight training device. He sold 4 or 5 to the Cuban Air Force, but struck gold when he took one to a fair where he was also giving real bi-plane rides in his plane (he charged folks a penny a pound to go up in his plane). From the air he saw the lines of folks wanting to ride the Acroplane were longer than the line for a ride in the real thing, and the light bulb went off.

    Anyway, Jon was able to fill in some technical details about the Acroplane. For example, all but the very last one build were fabric covered, just like the bi-planes of the time. The engine was a 35HP single phase electric motor, and the propeller was built for them by a propeller manufacturer right in Salem, Oregon, which is where Eyerly Aviation had their factory. The early model Acroplanes had a single set of "wings" up front, just like the one in the video above, but later they went to double wings, like a bi-plane, that made the controls much more responsive, which meant faster spins and turns.

    The base of the Acroplane that you see in the film clip shows what is actually the stripped down frame from a Model A Ford, though they upgraded to Model T frames later on. To my surprise, Jon told me it traveled down the road just as it appears in the film..they pointed the nose forward and at a bit of a down angle, locked everything down, and down the road they went. That must have been a sight. He said the whole thing was just under 12 feet tall, which allowed it to go under any overpasses in use at the time.

    By the way, Jon is nearly 80 now, but he still works in the Amusement Ride Industry, a company called Funtastic Rides out of Portland OR I believe. Eyerly Aviation folded and was sold I believe in the mid 80's after a accident on another Eyerly ride pushed their insurance through the roof. Jon supervises maintenance of all the Funtastic Rides, and still spends a large amount of time on the road...a true "Carnie".

    The last Acroplane built was "flown" at the Oregon State Fair (I forget the year) before it was retired and put on temporary display at the McNary AirField in Salem, OR. To my knowledge, this is the last remaining remnants of an Acroplane in existance, though Jon said he heard many years ago that some "Scouting Group" in the midwest restored one as a scouting project. In any case, the one on display at McNary field disappeared from there a couple of years ago, but after quite a bit of digging I haven't been able to track it down. The same goes for the one supposedly restored by the scouts.

    My hope is to find whatever may be left of an actual Acroplane and restore it to its full glory. I even have a museum in Oregon with an exhibit about Lee Eyerly, ready to make room for the Acroplane, if I every get one built. If I can't find an actual Acroplane to restore, the best I can do is try to recreate one from the photos and drawings I have been able to dig up. I actually already have a full scale prototype built which allowed me to work out the controls, but I'm holding off on building the real thing in the hopes of recovering some actual remnants.

    If anyone knows anything about the whereabouts of an Acroplane or remnants in any condition, please do not hesitate to contact me...I'll reserve the first ride for you. And to the chap that posted the link to the "Skyway" film MANY THANKS. I've been describing the Acroplane to family and friends for years, and they all just looked at me kind of funny. They never 'got it' until I found your video clip and showed it to them. With me actually building one in my garage, my wife was starting to think I'd gone 'round the bend. You may have saved my marriage.  Ride hard...keep your hands up and your lu

  • Monday, December 22, 2014 3:52 PM
    Reply # 3174550 on 3174475
    Joseph Deaton (Administrator)

     

     I've been thinking about this thing.

      A 35 HP single phase motor takes a lot of "juice" to operate. Well over 100 amps. It would limit you on where you could place it. You would have to be close to some power source and then it would have to have enough available power.

      It's hard to believe it would take that much HP to operate this thing. Maybe work on the aerodynamics to make it work on 10HP. Good bearings and a lighter "airframe" would also be a plus.

      And I might be thinking wrong here, but say you want 1700RPM full throttle. For this ride you're really not pulling any weight as you would be in an airplane. You're just running a big fan. 1700 RPM with 10HP behind it will be the same as 1700HP with 35 HP behind it. All the bigger motor would give you is better "throttle" response.

      I'm guessing the propeller back then was pretty heavy and you needed HP to turn it. With today's materials you should be able to make a lighter and aerodynamically superior propeller that would allow the same response on less HP.

     Or, I could be just making it all up.......

     Can we all get some of those cool hats?

  • Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:52 AM
    Reply # 3174930 on 3174475

    One of my favorite also but another at the top of the list is the Flying Scooter.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvd6FYYscOk    


    When I was a kid we had one next to Buckeye Lake east of Columbus, OH. I would make note of the incoming wind and planned the scooter so when heading into the wind I would fly the scooter so it would rapidly gain altitude quickly causing the cables to loosen then snap hard when recovering. I would spend all day just riding this thing. I always got kicked off due to snapping the cables but I would wait around until a new operator would show off and the process of being kicked off reapeated. Cedar Point has one and so far I have only received a warning not to fly in this manner.


    If we were to build one it would be evern Kooooler to have altitude capbility. This would not only be a blast to have but is a marketable amusement ride.

  • Wednesday, February 11, 2015 9:38 AM
    Reply # 3223450 on 3174475
    Anonymous

    Amusement rides have certainly changed a lot. They didn't have anything like that when I was a kid. Now the Lucas county fair is just a convention of overweight oddballs eating funnel cakes and fried food.


    That said it would be awesome to build an acroplane and I would be all about helping out in that effort.
    Two thoughts come to mind-


    1- How long do you think it will take national to issue a rule against chapters making fair rides?


    2. You think our president talks a lot about insurance now. I think he would have a heart attack with this venture. 


    That said, lets make it happen.

  • Tuesday, February 17, 2015 10:45 AM
    Reply # 3227901 on 3174475
    I wouldn't worry about national, we would operate it separately from the club just like TBLSACI.  As far as insurance goes I have no idea.  As far as operation goes it would be very safe because one of us would load them up and buckle them up insuring they are secured just like we do when we give airplane rides.  I would love to help with this but just like you I aready have a project to finish.  It would be a great asset that could help generate funds for the chapter.


    Bill

  • Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:53 AM
    Reply # 3228621 on 3174475

    There is still a Fly O Plane in use at Chattanooga, TN  


    http://www.lakewinnie.com


     Look under Attractions..Thrill Rides..Fly o Plane

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